Monday, December 14, 2009

The Ethics of Unemployment

Due to the Recession, many folks I know have been laid off and are now collecting Unemployment. It's lucky that we live in a country with safety nets! But how, exactly, do the ethics of Unemployment Benefits work?

Last week I overheard the following conversation on a bus in Southern Thailand:

British Carpenter: "So what do you do for work back in the States?"

American Woman: "Nothing now, but I used to work in finance. Now I just collect Unemployment. It's more than enough to live on and travel out here in Southeast Asia. I've been doing it for over eleven months now."

British Carpenter: "Traveling for a year on your government's dime! How is that possible?!"

American Woman: "I just have to log into the website every two weeks, and I get my check."

British Carpenter: (chokes on Pepsi and nearly falls off the bus)

So. There you have it. A handful of people are seeing the world on Uncle Sam's dime, thanks to being laid off.

What do we think about this? Since I've never been on Unemployment myself (my current state of, er, "self-employment" is a voluntary leave of absence), I'm speaking from a place of relative ignorance. That said, here are some thoughts:

A.) CONs of travel while collecting Unemployment:

I think my mother would positively slap me across the face if I tried such a stunt, and she's a peaceful being. There would be a lot of yelling and some choice words about wasting taxpayer money and being a drain on society. And in many ways I might agree.

From eavesdropping on the rest of the conversation (sorry-- it was a small bus!) it was clear that this woman not only had made and saved a decent amount of money in her finance job, but she also came from a relatively wealthy family.

The Socialist within screams out that one should not take any more of a communal resource than absolutely necessary, even one is fully within the official rules of society. Stretching out Unemployment benefits much longer than necessary seems somewhat unethical!

B.) PROs of travel while collecting Unemployment:

That said, we do live in a global world with a global economy. This means that, technically, it is just as valid to be "looking for a new job" abroad as it to be "looking for a new job" while sitting on your couch at home.

In fact, the skills and perspectives one might acquire through travel might in fact make a person far more employable in the future. By physically being in a number of different cities in a short amount of time, more job options and interviews can become possible.

Finally, nowadays, the majority of job searching takes place over the Internet, which can just as easily searched in California as in Cambodia. In fact, the cost of living is so low in regions such as Southeast Asia, that travel while on Unemployment usually causes LESS financial stress than not traveling.

Ergo, perhaps the American woman had a point that it made equal sense for her to be in Thailand collecting Unemployment as to be cold in Chicago.

So there are both sides of the debate. Where do you stand? As always, the answer likely likes in the middle: travel is great, but only use Unemployment benefits as long as you really need them!

(Note: All photos are from my $12-a-night resort in gorgeous Ko Lanta, Thailand... which I am paying for through my savings from working as a teacher, not from Unemployment benefits!)

8 comments:

  1. I'm with mom on this one. The freeloader traveling lady is not doing the right thing. This is a classic tragedy of the commons example.

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  2. I disagree ,There are few jobs and we payed in to this fund.A more honest approach for The U.S. government (and Pragmatic)is turn us all into Esl
    instructors (at a reduced benefit)Reduce the Unempoyment numbers ,Pair up skilled tradespersons with NGO's i.e.Habitat for Humanity,and create a
    honest system of subsidizied Travel and humanitarian relief ala Peace Corp with more flexibility .

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  3. I'm with mom too. I know personally when you fill out that online form for your check, you have to say "Yes I looked for work this week", and "No, I was not able to find work this week" - and then sign it digitally. She's basically committing fraud every week. Anonymous - if that system gets set up and she goes back out on the road, okay that's ethical, but for now I think she's wrong.

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  4. I'm sorry but if this woman isn't genuinely looking for work (whether living in Thailand or elsewhere) I don't see how she is eligible for unemployment benefits. I don't know how the US works but in my country if she is ever found out then all the amount she has falsely claimed can be legally reclaimed by the government and she can be charged with fraud.

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  5. Interesting post !
    Here in the UK, you have to attend the unemployment office every 2 weeks in person.
    Interesting that U.S. residents can 'sign-in' online.
    When I took my year out in 2005/06, I just used my savings to fund my trip. It wouldn't even have entered my mind to consider claiming unemployment benefit. :o)

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  6. You can put me in Mom's corner, too. Franny has it exactly right -- she's lying to the system.

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  7. Agreed. Sure she could be looking for jobs as she travels, but it sounds like she's not. There are people that really need that money and she clearly doesn't. Anyways, does unemployment really last that long, and you really don't have to show up or have any proof that you applied for jobs? I'm skeptical, but haven't looked into it.

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  8. Folks where ever you might be,
    Unemployment benefits in the USA is handled by the State Governments. Therefore it varies from one state to another. New York State does require physical attendance regularly to show efforts and discuss needs and to use the office resources at one of the State Unemployment Centers while collecting unemployment benefits. What folks often forget is that when you are working in the USA, the employers are obligated to pay for state and federal unemployment insurance to the State and Federal Governments' Unemployment Insurance Fund, for each of the workers they employed. These are part of the payroll taxes amoung other taxes that the employers have to bear. The employers are often penalized with increased unemployment taxes if they layoff workers. So unemployment benefits in the USA are in the grey area of a mixture of insurance claims and government support. Therefore, I would not totally criticize this wonderful woman travelling in Thailand while looking for possible opportunities in SEA. A quick and short overheard conversation is not enough to jump into judgement. What she said might be just trying to lighten up things in life rather than be totally stressed out in the Chicago winter. Merry X'mas and happy new year to all!!!

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